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		By: Ankie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2018 06:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for an insightfull post.
 A just finished reading Lee Strobel’s book “The case for miracles”. Pilip’s blog was mentioned in one of the footnotes of Lee’s book.
I want to add an interesting observation to the medical-miracle debate. 

My brother’s son is a medical doctor. While at medical school, a professor told the prospective doctors that science still technically  cannot explain how the healing of patients takes place after they got medical treatments. The only thing they do know is that their prescribed medical treatments create the conditions that are conducive for healing to take place, but how the healing process actually happens,  scientists actually don’t know - science cannot explain that process in detail. It remains  a mystery. Is this not the miracle Jesus (God) at work in conjunction with the medical scientist? Healings from medical treatments, therefore, are also miracles! Maybe we should define science differently? Currently healing, which cannot be explained, is viewed as science and is therefore excluded from the miracle healing  powers of Jesus. Should we ask Lee Strobel to investigate? Whatever the outcome, Jesus is not an intellectual object needed to be proved. It is an heart, relationship issue.  I take it in faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for an insightfull post.<br />
 A just finished reading Lee Strobel’s book “The case for miracles”. Pilip’s blog was mentioned in one of the footnotes of Lee’s book.<br />
I want to add an interesting observation to the medical-miracle debate. </p>
<p>My brother’s son is a medical doctor. While at medical school, a professor told the prospective doctors that science still technically  cannot explain how the healing of patients takes place after they got medical treatments. The only thing they do know is that their prescribed medical treatments create the conditions that are conducive for healing to take place, but how the healing process actually happens,  scientists actually don’t know &#8211; science cannot explain that process in detail. It remains  a mystery. Is this not the miracle Jesus (God) at work in conjunction with the medical scientist? Healings from medical treatments, therefore, are also miracles! Maybe we should define science differently? Currently healing, which cannot be explained, is viewed as science and is therefore excluded from the miracle healing  powers of Jesus. Should we ask Lee Strobel to investigate? Whatever the outcome, Jesus is not an intellectual object needed to be proved. It is an heart, relationship issue.  I take it in faith.</p>
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		By: gary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2017 20:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Think about this folks:  In the first gospel written, the Gospel of Mark, Jesus spends the overwhelming majority of his ministry in Galilee, never mentions or at least goes out of his way to hide his identity as the Son of God, talks about “the Kingdom of God” repeatedly, speaks mostly in parables, and the time period between his baptism and his death is one year.

Yet in the Gospel of John, written several decades later, Jesus’ ministry is largely set in Jerusalem, Jesus is very open about his divinity, never or rarely refers to the “Kingdom of God”, never speaks in parables but in long discourses, and the time period from his baptism to his death spans three years.  In the Synoptics, Jesus seems to cast out (exorcise) demons in practically every town he passes through, yet not one exorcism is mentioned in the Gospel of John.  Not one.

And conservative Christians want us to accept the historical reliability of these ancient texts???

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about this folks:  In the first gospel written, the Gospel of Mark, Jesus spends the overwhelming majority of his ministry in Galilee, never mentions or at least goes out of his way to hide his identity as the Son of God, talks about “the Kingdom of God” repeatedly, speaks mostly in parables, and the time period between his baptism and his death is one year.</p>
<p>Yet in the Gospel of John, written several decades later, Jesus’ ministry is largely set in Jerusalem, Jesus is very open about his divinity, never or rarely refers to the “Kingdom of God”, never speaks in parables but in long discourses, and the time period from his baptism to his death spans three years.  In the Synoptics, Jesus seems to cast out (exorcise) demons in practically every town he passes through, yet not one exorcism is mentioned in the Gospel of John.  Not one.</p>
<p>And conservative Christians want us to accept the historical reliability of these ancient texts???</p>
<p>Get serious.</p>
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		By: Philip Yancey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2016 19:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://philipyancey.com/jesus-and-miracles/comment-page-2/#comment-7577&quot;&gt;Ed Stone&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, and as I like to say, &quot;Pain redeemed impresses me more than pain removed.&quot;  Your family has been &quot;blessed&quot; with both.
Philip]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://philipyancey.com/jesus-and-miracles/comment-page-2/#comment-7577">Ed Stone</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, and as I like to say, &#8220;Pain redeemed impresses me more than pain removed.&#8221;  Your family has been &#8220;blessed&#8221; with both.<br />
Philip</p>
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		By: Ed Stone		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I enjoyed reading this post and you bring up some really important points. In my family, I have witnessed a miraculous physical healing of a daughter in the hospital which left the doctors scratching their heads (except for those who are Christ followers). I continue to praise God for His miraculous touch on her. On the other hand, I have suffered all my life with a neurological disorder causing muscle weakness. I pray for healing constantly of course but have come to realize God has used my personal journey of non physical healing to teach me some powerful spiritual truths mostly centered around dependance on him and not my own strength. My point is faith in God means trusting Him with the way He chooses to direct your paths. 

Hebrews 11:6 says, &quot;“And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.”  I believe this verse wholeheartedly but I must trust God&#039;s definition of &quot;reward&quot; instead of my own. In my daughter&#039;s case, reward involved a miraculous physical healing. In my case, God&#039;s reward results in learning to depend on God in my weakness; equally miraculous if you knew me well.

Thank you for your post!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading this post and you bring up some really important points. In my family, I have witnessed a miraculous physical healing of a daughter in the hospital which left the doctors scratching their heads (except for those who are Christ followers). I continue to praise God for His miraculous touch on her. On the other hand, I have suffered all my life with a neurological disorder causing muscle weakness. I pray for healing constantly of course but have come to realize God has used my personal journey of non physical healing to teach me some powerful spiritual truths mostly centered around dependance on him and not my own strength. My point is faith in God means trusting Him with the way He chooses to direct your paths. </p>
<p>Hebrews 11:6 says, &#8220;“And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.”  I believe this verse wholeheartedly but I must trust God&#8217;s definition of &#8220;reward&#8221; instead of my own. In my daughter&#8217;s case, reward involved a miraculous physical healing. In my case, God&#8217;s reward results in learning to depend on God in my weakness; equally miraculous if you knew me well.</p>
<p>Thank you for your post!</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like Matt in his message, I too am struck by the seeming conflict between the Lord&#039;s desire for faith without signs and the obvious compassion he exhibited in the face of pain and suffering during His earthly ministry.  This is the essence of the so-called problem of pain you address in your book Where is God When it Hurts.  As already noted, Jesus - so far as we know from the Bible - never denied a request for healing, whether for the individual asking for someone else as in the case of the Roman officer&#039;s servant.  So the question that perplexes me is why so many people with faith in the centuries since the death of Jesus are not healed despite their prayers and the prayers of their family and friends.  The faithful alive since the time of Jesus brief public life all must believe without having physically seen Jesus perform miracles and yet seemingly only a relatively few of them are accorded miraculous healing.   Like Matt too, I know there is an answer, even though I don&#039;t know what it is because the simple fact is only God knows. Because of a series of health issues I sometimes have trouble accepting this, but as a wise and holy woman I visit for spiritual guidance periodically reminds me, we have to be accepting of and even comfortable with mystery if we want to be a disciple of Jesus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Matt in his message, I too am struck by the seeming conflict between the Lord&#8217;s desire for faith without signs and the obvious compassion he exhibited in the face of pain and suffering during His earthly ministry.  This is the essence of the so-called problem of pain you address in your book Where is God When it Hurts.  As already noted, Jesus &#8211; so far as we know from the Bible &#8211; never denied a request for healing, whether for the individual asking for someone else as in the case of the Roman officer&#8217;s servant.  So the question that perplexes me is why so many people with faith in the centuries since the death of Jesus are not healed despite their prayers and the prayers of their family and friends.  The faithful alive since the time of Jesus brief public life all must believe without having physically seen Jesus perform miracles and yet seemingly only a relatively few of them are accorded miraculous healing.   Like Matt too, I know there is an answer, even though I don&#8217;t know what it is because the simple fact is only God knows. Because of a series of health issues I sometimes have trouble accepting this, but as a wise and holy woman I visit for spiritual guidance periodically reminds me, we have to be accepting of and even comfortable with mystery if we want to be a disciple of Jesus.</p>
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		By: gary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2016 05:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[According to the Bible, how many Old Testament prophets raised people from the dead?  Answer:  Two.  Elijah and Elisha.

That&#039;s it.  And they only did it three times.  So the act of raising someone from the dead would have been seen as a very, very big deal.  It was not like healing someone of a disease or casting out demons.  Lots of people, it seems, could do those miracles.  Nope, raising someone from the dead was the big kahuna of all miracles!  Is there any instance in the Bible of a false prophet or a prophet of another god raising the dead?  

In the Gospel of John chapter 11, we are told that Lazarus had been dead for four days.  His body was decomposing to the point that he stunk.  Lazarus death and burial were very public events.  His tomb was a known location.  Many Jews had come to mourn with Mary and Martha and some of them were wondering why the great miracle worker, Jesus, had not come and healed his friend Lazarus; essentially blaming Jesus for letting Lazarus die.

Let&#039;s step back and look at the facts asserted in this passage:  Only two OT prophets had raised people from the dead, and these two prophets were considered probably the two greatest Jewish prophets of all time:  Elijah and Elisha.  If this story is true, the supernatural powers of Jesus were on par with the supernatural powers of the greatest Jewish prophets of all time!  If this event really did occur, it should have shocked the Jewish people to their very core---a new Elijah was among them!  This event must have been the most shocking event to have occurred in the lives of every living Jewish man and woman on the planet.  The news of this event would have spread to every Jewish community across the globe.

And yet...Paul, a devout and highly educated Jew, says not one word about it.  Not one.  Not in his epistles; not in the Book of  Acts.  Think about that.  What would be the most powerful sign to the Jews living in Asia Minor and Greece---the very people to whom Paul was preaching and attempting to convert---to support the claim that Jesus of Nazareth himself had been raised from the dead?  Answer:  The very public, very well documented raising from the dead of Lazarus of Bethany by Jesus!

But nope.  No mention of this great miracle by Paul.   (A review of Paul&#039;s epistles indicates that Paul seems to have known very little if anything about the historical Jesus.  Read here.)

And there is one more very, very odd thing about the Raising-of-Lazarus-from-the-Dead Miracle:  the author of the Gospel of John, the very last gospel to be written, is the only gospel author to mention this amazing miracle!  The authors of Mark, Matthew, and Luke say NOTHING about the miracle of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead.  Nothing...

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Bible, how many Old Testament prophets raised people from the dead?  Answer:  Two.  Elijah and Elisha.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it.  And they only did it three times.  So the act of raising someone from the dead would have been seen as a very, very big deal.  It was not like healing someone of a disease or casting out demons.  Lots of people, it seems, could do those miracles.  Nope, raising someone from the dead was the big kahuna of all miracles!  Is there any instance in the Bible of a false prophet or a prophet of another god raising the dead?  </p>
<p>In the Gospel of John chapter 11, we are told that Lazarus had been dead for four days.  His body was decomposing to the point that he stunk.  Lazarus death and burial were very public events.  His tomb was a known location.  Many Jews had come to mourn with Mary and Martha and some of them were wondering why the great miracle worker, Jesus, had not come and healed his friend Lazarus; essentially blaming Jesus for letting Lazarus die.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s step back and look at the facts asserted in this passage:  Only two OT prophets had raised people from the dead, and these two prophets were considered probably the two greatest Jewish prophets of all time:  Elijah and Elisha.  If this story is true, the supernatural powers of Jesus were on par with the supernatural powers of the greatest Jewish prophets of all time!  If this event really did occur, it should have shocked the Jewish people to their very core&#8212;a new Elijah was among them!  This event must have been the most shocking event to have occurred in the lives of every living Jewish man and woman on the planet.  The news of this event would have spread to every Jewish community across the globe.</p>
<p>And yet&#8230;Paul, a devout and highly educated Jew, says not one word about it.  Not one.  Not in his epistles; not in the Book of  Acts.  Think about that.  What would be the most powerful sign to the Jews living in Asia Minor and Greece&#8212;the very people to whom Paul was preaching and attempting to convert&#8212;to support the claim that Jesus of Nazareth himself had been raised from the dead?  Answer:  The very public, very well documented raising from the dead of Lazarus of Bethany by Jesus!</p>
<p>But nope.  No mention of this great miracle by Paul.   (A review of Paul&#8217;s epistles indicates that Paul seems to have known very little if anything about the historical Jesus.  Read here.)</p>
<p>And there is one more very, very odd thing about the Raising-of-Lazarus-from-the-Dead Miracle:  the author of the Gospel of John, the very last gospel to be written, is the only gospel author to mention this amazing miracle!  The authors of Mark, Matthew, and Luke say NOTHING about the miracle of Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead.  Nothing&#8230;</p>
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		By: Joseph		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Miracles that reverse disease are not uncommon but neither are they overly common. In truth we experience the miracles when we are given time to spend with loved ones before they go to sleep. Indeed, life itself is a miracle. Not by random chance but by the word of God. 

We know much about the mechanics of the world (hard sciences and life sciences offer much insight into things which remained a mystery since the dawn of human history), yet we still can not explain precisely how ANYTHING actually is. In short, it&#039;s because what we see is the creation of God. God who told reluctant Moses to refer to Him simply as I AM. 

But that may not be much comfort to people who endure hardship and loss, for whom each day is a struggle and the testament of faith is by the very act of living and hoping for that which is yet unseen. 

For all of us who know of the scorn that comes from a world that is satisfied only with the here and now, and the sorrow of loss, Paul&#039;s words of encouragement to the Hebrews is the best summary of what we can expect as Christians:

Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment.  They were put to death by stoning;[a] they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—  the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.

 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised,  since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect. - Hebrews 11: 35-40

May we be given the grace of God and the blessing of patience. Wait on God, because He does not forget those who love Him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miracles that reverse disease are not uncommon but neither are they overly common. In truth we experience the miracles when we are given time to spend with loved ones before they go to sleep. Indeed, life itself is a miracle. Not by random chance but by the word of God. </p>
<p>We know much about the mechanics of the world (hard sciences and life sciences offer much insight into things which remained a mystery since the dawn of human history), yet we still can not explain precisely how ANYTHING actually is. In short, it&#8217;s because what we see is the creation of God. God who told reluctant Moses to refer to Him simply as I AM. </p>
<p>But that may not be much comfort to people who endure hardship and loss, for whom each day is a struggle and the testament of faith is by the very act of living and hoping for that which is yet unseen. </p>
<p>For all of us who know of the scorn that comes from a world that is satisfied only with the here and now, and the sorrow of loss, Paul&#8217;s words of encouragement to the Hebrews is the best summary of what we can expect as Christians:</p>
<p>Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment.  They were put to death by stoning;[a] they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—  the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.</p>
<p> These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised,  since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect. &#8211; Hebrews 11: 35-40</p>
<p>May we be given the grace of God and the blessing of patience. Wait on God, because He does not forget those who love Him.</p>
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		By: hari		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Sir,
God, as c.s.lewis puts it is not our tame lion and His ways are out of the world and beyond our thinking!!! But Jesus said ask and you shall receive, you will do greater works than  these and he said go out  into the world and these signs will accompany you and gospel of mark says &quot;and they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs&quot;-mark 16:20.
So why doesn&#039;t God fulfil His promise??? I would follow God even when everything fails and I am in lions cage for its dinner but when I witness to others if all these words don&#039;t ring true , what am I supposed to believe or what&#039;s the real meaning of these promises]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Sir,<br />
God, as c.s.lewis puts it is not our tame lion and His ways are out of the world and beyond our thinking!!! But Jesus said ask and you shall receive, you will do greater works than  these and he said go out  into the world and these signs will accompany you and gospel of mark says &#8220;and they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs&#8221;-mark 16:20.<br />
So why doesn&#8217;t God fulfil His promise??? I would follow God even when everything fails and I am in lions cage for its dinner but when I witness to others if all these words don&#8217;t ring true , what am I supposed to believe or what&#8217;s the real meaning of these promises</p>
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		By: Matt		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great blog...I love your honest, deep thinking. The lack of massive amounts of amazing miracles in our day does seem to call into question much of what is recorded in the New Testament. At the same time, Jesus said &quot;Woe&quot; to those cities where most of his miracles were performed because of their continued unbelief...so there seems to be an increase of judgment with an increase of miracles. Even after seeing many of the recorded miracles firsthand, the disciples found it hard to believe that Jesus was raised from the dead, with Thomas asserting that he would not believe until he felt the wounds of the risen Jesus firsthand...I guess he wanted to make sure this guy that liked like Jesus was really the one that he saw on the cross. Jesus&#039; response was to invite him to touch his wounds, but he also said, &quot; &quot;Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.&quot; So it would seem, that Jesus is looking for faith that springs from a heart that is willing to believe on very little evidence. With that being said, Jesus also heals out of compassion for those who are suffering, so it would seem that there are competing purposes at play. I can&#039;t explain how it works, but I believe there is an explanation. It could be as simple as the fact that there are a lot of hearings in our day, but people are just obeying Jesus&#039; command not to tell anyone... :)  Thanks for the blog.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog&#8230;I love your honest, deep thinking. The lack of massive amounts of amazing miracles in our day does seem to call into question much of what is recorded in the New Testament. At the same time, Jesus said &#8220;Woe&#8221; to those cities where most of his miracles were performed because of their continued unbelief&#8230;so there seems to be an increase of judgment with an increase of miracles. Even after seeing many of the recorded miracles firsthand, the disciples found it hard to believe that Jesus was raised from the dead, with Thomas asserting that he would not believe until he felt the wounds of the risen Jesus firsthand&#8230;I guess he wanted to make sure this guy that liked like Jesus was really the one that he saw on the cross. Jesus&#8217; response was to invite him to touch his wounds, but he also said, &#8221; &#8220;Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.&#8221; So it would seem, that Jesus is looking for faith that springs from a heart that is willing to believe on very little evidence. With that being said, Jesus also heals out of compassion for those who are suffering, so it would seem that there are competing purposes at play. I can&#8217;t explain how it works, but I believe there is an explanation. It could be as simple as the fact that there are a lot of hearings in our day, but people are just obeying Jesus&#8217; command not to tell anyone&#8230; 🙂  Thanks for the blog.</p>
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		By: Paul Morris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2015 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Insightful article, Philip.  Thank you.  I&#039;ve done a bit of study on the life and ministry of Jesus myself, and find myself in close agreement with your conclusions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insightful article, Philip.  Thank you.  I&#8217;ve done a bit of study on the life and ministry of Jesus myself, and find myself in close agreement with your conclusions.</p>
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