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		By: Joe Taylor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2023 17:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ Thank you. It was reading your chapter on MLK in your book &quot;Soul Survivor&quot; that began the repentance in my own life years ago. I&#039;m most grateful to you for igniting that repentance in me. 
Your fellow soul survivor...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Thank you. It was reading your chapter on MLK in your book &#8220;Soul Survivor&#8221; that began the repentance in my own life years ago. I&#8217;m most grateful to you for igniting that repentance in me.<br />
Your fellow soul survivor&#8230;</p>
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		By: Lee Ann Marona		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 16:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ Thank you so much for coming to Alabama and for writing this courageous, powerful piece about The Legacy Museum and National Memorial for Peace and Justice. I live in the Montgomery area and am a member of a church in downtown Montgomery. I visited the Museum and Memorial by myself earlier this year, and it was a moving and eye-opening experience. Sadly I have not met anyone else in my church who has actually toured the Museum.  It is disheartening to see so many well-intentioned people of faith uncritically and inadvertently buy into political messages and negative perceptions which, in my opinion, reflect a warped view of the kingdom of God. Thanks again for this post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Thank you so much for coming to Alabama and for writing this courageous, powerful piece about The Legacy Museum and National Memorial for Peace and Justice. I live in the Montgomery area and am a member of a church in downtown Montgomery. I visited the Museum and Memorial by myself earlier this year, and it was a moving and eye-opening experience. Sadly I have not met anyone else in my church who has actually toured the Museum.  It is disheartening to see so many well-intentioned people of faith uncritically and inadvertently buy into political messages and negative perceptions which, in my opinion, reflect a warped view of the kingdom of God. Thanks again for this post.</p>
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		By: Kam Congleton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2022 14:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip, Always thankful for your gracious candor in how you choose your words, each thoughtfully written.  It is with real Hope I pray we can all live more as Jesus did in whatever corners of the world we live and move in. Some of us grew up as I did in small rural (even Southern)
communities where racism was decried from pulpits and the fact that Jesus loves ALL the children of the world was practiced, tho of course never perfectly.   In Christ there is real common ground ; I pray we each truly seek it. 
Kam]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip, Always thankful for your gracious candor in how you choose your words, each thoughtfully written.  It is with real Hope I pray we can all live more as Jesus did in whatever corners of the world we live and move in. Some of us grew up as I did in small rural (even Southern)<br />
communities where racism was decried from pulpits and the fact that Jesus loves ALL the children of the world was practiced, tho of course never perfectly.   In Christ there is real common ground ; I pray we each truly seek it.<br />
Kam</p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 13:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ Good post and still such an important topic.  I find it interesting how people respond to this- some get defensive and minimize the significance of the church&#039;s role in misleading people and others respond by wanting to throw away all the difficult portions of the Bible under the guise of grace and mercy, assuming that since they were lied to about race, everything else we don&#039;t want to hear must be a lie too.  I grew up in the north in the 1990&#039;s so I didn&#039;t experience the racial situations Philip describes but my church was quite legalistic.  Like many today, in college I went down the path of what people now call &#039;deconstruction&#039; in reaction to my upbringing.   What I eventually learned and too few today seem to realize is that the &#039;deconstruction&#039; philosophy that many seemed to have embraced is just is flawed as the legalistic one I grew up in, although in different ways.   After I veered hard in the deconstruction direction to the point of questioning God&#039;s very existence, God slowly lead me back.  I have discovered a more loving and gracious God than I knew in my childhood, but also a more holy, just and demanding God than I wanted to find in my deconstruction phase. While we must combat damaging errors such as the one Philip highlights in his post; we must also combat going in the opposite direction and blaming everything we don&#039;t like on &#039;angry white men&#039;.  That is far too simplistic an understanding.  Issues relating to race, gender, and sexual orientation are complex and we can&#039;t write off everything relating to those issues that seems harsh or unpleasant.  If we do we are only seeing part of the picture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Good post and still such an important topic.  I find it interesting how people respond to this- some get defensive and minimize the significance of the church&#8217;s role in misleading people and others respond by wanting to throw away all the difficult portions of the Bible under the guise of grace and mercy, assuming that since they were lied to about race, everything else we don&#8217;t want to hear must be a lie too.  I grew up in the north in the 1990&#8217;s so I didn&#8217;t experience the racial situations Philip describes but my church was quite legalistic.  Like many today, in college I went down the path of what people now call &#8216;deconstruction&#8217; in reaction to my upbringing.   What I eventually learned and too few today seem to realize is that the &#8216;deconstruction&#8217; philosophy that many seemed to have embraced is just is flawed as the legalistic one I grew up in, although in different ways.   After I veered hard in the deconstruction direction to the point of questioning God&#8217;s very existence, God slowly lead me back.  I have discovered a more loving and gracious God than I knew in my childhood, but also a more holy, just and demanding God than I wanted to find in my deconstruction phase. While we must combat damaging errors such as the one Philip highlights in his post; we must also combat going in the opposite direction and blaming everything we don&#8217;t like on &#8216;angry white men&#8217;.  That is far too simplistic an understanding.  Issues relating to race, gender, and sexual orientation are complex and we can&#8217;t write off everything relating to those issues that seems harsh or unpleasant.  If we do we are only seeing part of the picture.</p>
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		By: Paul Mitchell		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2022 01:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is plenty of truth concerning historical racism, but I must give a counter-balance observation: When will (many, but far from all) people of color stop dividing the nation by continually reminding everyone about their historical injuries and modern perceived disadvantaged lives? When will we see compliments and encouragements for &quot;white&quot; racial successes come forth, instead of new, perceived offenses? 
My ancestor gave his health, his 20-yr-old brother gave his eyesight to a Confederate bullet, in the war that freed slaves in this country. They were far from perfect, but they were working on it and they put their lives on the line for improvement. To date, I know of not a single erected statue, marker or even a modern speech delivered by any African-American organization thanking those soldiers. 

Morgan Freeman, the actor, says everyone needs to stop observing &quot;black&quot; days and events like &quot;Black History Month.&quot; (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RosCZkH5uTI) Why? He says it only divides the nation, because whites have to keep silent, keep being reminded of past sins, real and perceived. Isn&#039;t it biblical, to forgive and forget the past, and press on? Doesn&#039;t God say he will forgive AS we forgive?

Booker T. Washington, black American political leader, educator and former president of Tuskegee University, said over a century ago when racism was indeed rampant: &quot;There is [a] class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy, and partly because it pays. 
Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. ...There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.” 
(&quot;My Larger Education&quot;, 1911)

Stephen Douglass, the great ex-slave, orator and statesman who influenced Lincoln greatly, said: “I think the [white] American people are disposed often to be generous rather than just. I look over this country at the present time, and I see Educational Societies, Sanitary Commissions, Freedmen&#039;s Associations, and the like, --all very good: but in regard to the colored people there is always more that is benevolent, I perceive, than just, manifested towards us. What I ask for the Negro is not benevolence, not pity, not sympathy, but simply justice. The [white] American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us. (Union) General (Nathaniel) Banks was distressed with solicitude as to what he should do with the [freed but penniless] Negro. Everybody has asked the question, and they learned to ask it early of the abolitionists, &quot;What shall we do with the Negro?&quot; I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature&#039;s plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone!” (“What the Black Man Wants,” a speech to Annual Meeting of the Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society in Boston, April, 1865. The Life and Writings of Frederick Douglass, by Philip S. Foner, International Publishers)

Racism has always been and will never end, it is endemic to humans. But perhaps solely in Western society has such a massive and noble movement existed to stamp it out. Dominant races need to be encouraged by minorities, who also need to guard against professional agitators. I look at the progress the nation has made in just my 75 years, and I opine &quot;we ain&#039;t done too bad, folks.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is plenty of truth concerning historical racism, but I must give a counter-balance observation: When will (many, but far from all) people of color stop dividing the nation by continually reminding everyone about their historical injuries and modern perceived disadvantaged lives? When will we see compliments and encouragements for &#8220;white&#8221; racial successes come forth, instead of new, perceived offenses?<br />
My ancestor gave his health, his 20-yr-old brother gave his eyesight to a Confederate bullet, in the war that freed slaves in this country. They were far from perfect, but they were working on it and they put their lives on the line for improvement. To date, I know of not a single erected statue, marker or even a modern speech delivered by any African-American organization thanking those soldiers. </p>
<p>Morgan Freeman, the actor, says everyone needs to stop observing &#8220;black&#8221; days and events like &#8220;Black History Month.&#8221; (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RosCZkH5uTI" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RosCZkH5uTI</a>) Why? He says it only divides the nation, because whites have to keep silent, keep being reminded of past sins, real and perceived. Isn&#8217;t it biblical, to forgive and forget the past, and press on? Doesn&#8217;t God say he will forgive AS we forgive?</p>
<p>Booker T. Washington, black American political leader, educator and former president of Tuskegee University, said over a century ago when racism was indeed rampant: &#8220;There is [a] class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs &#8212; partly because they want sympathy, and partly because it pays.<br />
Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. &#8230;There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.”<br />
(&#8220;My Larger Education&#8221;, 1911)</p>
<p>Stephen Douglass, the great ex-slave, orator and statesman who influenced Lincoln greatly, said: “I think the [white] American people are disposed often to be generous rather than just. I look over this country at the present time, and I see Educational Societies, Sanitary Commissions, Freedmen&#8217;s Associations, and the like, &#8211;all very good: but in regard to the colored people there is always more that is benevolent, I perceive, than just, manifested towards us. What I ask for the Negro is not benevolence, not pity, not sympathy, but simply justice. The [white] American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us. (Union) General (Nathaniel) Banks was distressed with solicitude as to what he should do with the [freed but penniless] Negro. Everybody has asked the question, and they learned to ask it early of the abolitionists, &#8220;What shall we do with the Negro?&#8221; I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature&#8217;s plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone!” (“What the Black Man Wants,” a speech to Annual Meeting of the Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society in Boston, April, 1865. The Life and Writings of Frederick Douglass, by Philip S. Foner, International Publishers)</p>
<p>Racism has always been and will never end, it is endemic to humans. But perhaps solely in Western society has such a massive and noble movement existed to stamp it out. Dominant races need to be encouraged by minorities, who also need to guard against professional agitators. I look at the progress the nation has made in just my 75 years, and I opine &#8220;we ain&#8217;t done too bad, folks.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gretchen Carlson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2022 14:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lord, reveal to me the lies I have swallowed and bring me to repentance. Guide me on your path.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord, reveal to me the lies I have swallowed and bring me to repentance. Guide me on your path.</p>
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		By: Berwyn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2022 00:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your deeply felt insights about the ongoing tragedy of racism. I have just borrowed Griffin’s book, Black Like Me, from the library.  So glad to know it’s still circulating and digitized after all these years.

Your books and writings inspire and sustain me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your deeply felt insights about the ongoing tragedy of racism. I have just borrowed Griffin’s book, Black Like Me, from the library.  So glad to know it’s still circulating and digitized after all these years.</p>
<p>Your books and writings inspire and sustain me.</p>
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		By: Edward Arrington		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 18:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ I grew up and am still part of a denomination that split from another denomination because they would not speak out against slavery. Later, our denomination was also involved in seeking voting rights for women. However, standing up for the downtrodden faded over the years until many in our movement were no longer aware of our history. I did not become aware of it until I was in my 30s. In the meantime, I had graduated high school before the massive push for integration started. My parents ran a business where they had a number of black customers. When I heard them talking against integrating schools, etc., I struggled with why it was all right for me to play with the children of the customers who were having their cars serviced, but it was wrong for us to go to school together. My first experience with a segregated restaurant was when I attended a technical school in Danville, VA. A friend and I walked into a restaurant one day at lunch and were promptly told we would have to go to the other side of the restaurant if we expected to be served. We had entered on the &quot;blacks only&quot; side and had to walk around the kitchen area to get to the &quot;whites only&quot; side. I only lived 40 miles west of Danville, but I had never seen that in our community. I later attended a Christian college where I eventually settled on a degree in Sociology. In one of my earliest Sociology classes, the instructor had us to read Black Like Me. It was an eye-opener. The disappointing thing to me about that instructor was that he was strongly prejudicial of anyone he considered to be prejudiced. Another professor in a Basic Christian Beliefs class shared a story about his seven-year-old son looking at some baseball cards one day. The young boy noticed that Frank Robinson and Brooks Robinson had the same last name. In childhood innocence, he held the cards up to his dad and said: &quot;Dad, are they brothers.&quot; Then the professor nailed it home. He told the class that children are not born prejudiced but are taught prejudice. These many years later, sometimes those things that my mother, who always declared she was not prejudiced, did and said, still come back to haunt my thinking and I have to again push back from them. I have especially appreciated a couple of books I read by John Perkins in which he states clearly that there is only one race. Those of us who are Christ-followers need to get this right and treat everyone the way He does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I grew up and am still part of a denomination that split from another denomination because they would not speak out against slavery. Later, our denomination was also involved in seeking voting rights for women. However, standing up for the downtrodden faded over the years until many in our movement were no longer aware of our history. I did not become aware of it until I was in my 30s. In the meantime, I had graduated high school before the massive push for integration started. My parents ran a business where they had a number of black customers. When I heard them talking against integrating schools, etc., I struggled with why it was all right for me to play with the children of the customers who were having their cars serviced, but it was wrong for us to go to school together. My first experience with a segregated restaurant was when I attended a technical school in Danville, VA. A friend and I walked into a restaurant one day at lunch and were promptly told we would have to go to the other side of the restaurant if we expected to be served. We had entered on the &#8220;blacks only&#8221; side and had to walk around the kitchen area to get to the &#8220;whites only&#8221; side. I only lived 40 miles west of Danville, but I had never seen that in our community. I later attended a Christian college where I eventually settled on a degree in Sociology. In one of my earliest Sociology classes, the instructor had us to read Black Like Me. It was an eye-opener. The disappointing thing to me about that instructor was that he was strongly prejudicial of anyone he considered to be prejudiced. Another professor in a Basic Christian Beliefs class shared a story about his seven-year-old son looking at some baseball cards one day. The young boy noticed that Frank Robinson and Brooks Robinson had the same last name. In childhood innocence, he held the cards up to his dad and said: &#8220;Dad, are they brothers.&#8221; Then the professor nailed it home. He told the class that children are not born prejudiced but are taught prejudice. These many years later, sometimes those things that my mother, who always declared she was not prejudiced, did and said, still come back to haunt my thinking and I have to again push back from them. I have especially appreciated a couple of books I read by John Perkins in which he states clearly that there is only one race. Those of us who are Christ-followers need to get this right and treat everyone the way He does.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I must say that I react strongly to Charles Stanley&#039;s comments.  It is not JUST a racist fundamentalist Baptist background that Philip Yancey experienced that is the
problem.  I believe that it is an all-pervasive attitude that is expressed in Mr Stanley&#039;s comments that is the problem.  It is the denial that there even is much of a problem and that we might actually be a part of the problem !!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say that I react strongly to Charles Stanley&#8217;s comments.  It is not JUST a racist fundamentalist Baptist background that Philip Yancey experienced that is the<br />
problem.  I believe that it is an all-pervasive attitude that is expressed in Mr Stanley&#8217;s comments that is the problem.  It is the denial that there even is much of a problem and that we might actually be a part of the problem !!!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a Canadian so never faced the racism towards Blacks but we have to deal more with some of the same attitudes toward First Nations people.  I am much more aware of the same stereotypes directed toward native people which discredits the pure love of God for all mankind.  Oh Lord change my heart!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Canadian so never faced the racism towards Blacks but we have to deal more with some of the same attitudes toward First Nations people.  I am much more aware of the same stereotypes directed toward native people which discredits the pure love of God for all mankind.  Oh Lord change my heart!</p>
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