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		By: Mega Churches In United States		</title>
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		By: Philip Yancey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Yancey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://philipyancey.com/small-is-large/comment-page-8/#comment-8669&quot;&gt;James Conner&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks much for the correction --Philip]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://philipyancey.com/small-is-large/comment-page-8/#comment-8669">James Conner</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks much for the correction &#8211;Philip</p>
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		By: Rachel Soto		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 19:58:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Yancy - 

Thanks so much for this article, and for all your thoughtful and compassionate body of work over the years. This post has given me something to consider. 
As sort of a nerd about accuracy, I have one small quibble - Billy Graham may well have used the quote you opened with, as have Barack Obama and many others. But the man who needs credit for originating the thought is Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr:

&quot; As a preacher... I must admit that I have gone through those moments when I was greatly disappointed with the church and what it has done in this period of social change. We must face the fact that in America, the church is still the most segregated major institution in America. At 11:00 on Sunday morning when we stand and sing and Christ has no east or west, we stand at the most segregated hour in this nation. This is tragic. Nobody of honesty can overlook this. Now, I&#039;m sure that if the church had taken a stronger stand all along, we wouldn&#039;t have many of the problems that we have. The first way that the church can repent, the first way that it can move out into the arena of social reform is to remove the yoke of segregation from its own body. Now, I&#039;m not saying that society must sit down and wait on a spiritual and moribund church as we&#039;ve so often seen. I think it should have started in the church, but since it didn&#039;t start in the church, our society needed to move on. The church, itself, will stand under the judgement of God. Now that the mistake of the past has been made, I think that the opportunity of the future is to really go out and to transform American society, and where else is there a better place than in the institution that should serve as the moral guardian of the community. The institution that should preach brotherhood and make it a reality within its own body.
        &quot;Social Justice and the Emerging New Age&quot; address at the Herman W. Read Fieldhouse, Western Michigan University (18 December 1963)&quot;

Just a minor correction. Dr. King&#039;s words still resonate in this discussion on the issue of self segregation. We may be worse at it than when he brought it up in 1963. 

Thanks again!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Yancy &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks so much for this article, and for all your thoughtful and compassionate body of work over the years. This post has given me something to consider.<br />
As sort of a nerd about accuracy, I have one small quibble &#8211; Billy Graham may well have used the quote you opened with, as have Barack Obama and many others. But the man who needs credit for originating the thought is Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr:</p>
<p>&#8221; As a preacher&#8230; I must admit that I have gone through those moments when I was greatly disappointed with the church and what it has done in this period of social change. We must face the fact that in America, the church is still the most segregated major institution in America. At 11:00 on Sunday morning when we stand and sing and Christ has no east or west, we stand at the most segregated hour in this nation. This is tragic. Nobody of honesty can overlook this. Now, I&#8217;m sure that if the church had taken a stronger stand all along, we wouldn&#8217;t have many of the problems that we have. The first way that the church can repent, the first way that it can move out into the arena of social reform is to remove the yoke of segregation from its own body. Now, I&#8217;m not saying that society must sit down and wait on a spiritual and moribund church as we&#8217;ve so often seen. I think it should have started in the church, but since it didn&#8217;t start in the church, our society needed to move on. The church, itself, will stand under the judgement of God. Now that the mistake of the past has been made, I think that the opportunity of the future is to really go out and to transform American society, and where else is there a better place than in the institution that should serve as the moral guardian of the community. The institution that should preach brotherhood and make it a reality within its own body.<br />
        &#8220;Social Justice and the Emerging New Age&#8221; address at the Herman W. Read Fieldhouse, Western Michigan University (18 December 1963)&#8221;</p>
<p>Just a minor correction. Dr. King&#8217;s words still resonate in this discussion on the issue of self segregation. We may be worse at it than when he brought it up in 1963. </p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		By: Philip Yancey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2016 22:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://philipyancey.com/small-is-large/comment-page-8/#comment-8669&quot;&gt;James Conner&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for this most thoughtful reply.  In many ways, we&#039;re expressing different matters of taste, not discussing a right-or-wrong isue.  I certainly miss the &quot;quality control&quot; that megachurches offer, and am very impressed by the professionalism and biblically-based sermons I&#039;ve heard at megachurches, not to mention the music.  I certainly didn&#039;t want to stir up animosity--rather, to help discouraged smaller churches realize they have a role to play as well.  They&#039;re the ones who tend to feel beleagured, with a minority complex.  --Philip]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://philipyancey.com/small-is-large/comment-page-8/#comment-8669">James Conner</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for this most thoughtful reply.  In many ways, we&#8217;re expressing different matters of taste, not discussing a right-or-wrong isue.  I certainly miss the &#8220;quality control&#8221; that megachurches offer, and am very impressed by the professionalism and biblically-based sermons I&#8217;ve heard at megachurches, not to mention the music.  I certainly didn&#8217;t want to stir up animosity&#8211;rather, to help discouraged smaller churches realize they have a role to play as well.  They&#8217;re the ones who tend to feel beleagured, with a minority complex.  &#8211;Philip</p>
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		By: James Conner		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2016 03:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Philip,
I have never read anything by you. To be honest, I found this article because my college is having me write a paper on it. While I do find some of your arguments to be correct, such as the smaller groups making it easier to rub elbows with people, I must disagree with most of your argument.
I do not want to be disrespectful. I realize that you are a well studied man, and that I am just a student struggling through college. I would like to say that I have only been going to a megachurch now for four years, and before I went I was very much against megachurches. I used many of the same arguments as you when my parents started taking us there. The first thing I will say is that a church should not be the driving force to &quot;force&quot; you to talk to other people outside of your clique. That to me just doesn&#039;t sound very Christ-like. Imagine if Jesus had only spent time with people like him. He never would have left Heaven. He would have never stepped out to spend time with people who didn&#039;t have the same interests with him, and he definitely would not have died for them.
To speak on families, I feel like your argument fights itself. I come from a family of nine kids, seven boys and two girls. My mother comes from a family of ten. My brother already has a family of five kids. If anyone knows diversity, It would be me. One uncle went to prison. Another uncle and aunt hunt big game around the world (We had wild boar from Africa as our ham last Thanksgiving). I have family in Texas, Tennessee, Michigan, Kentucky, and Florida. We all like different things, and I have learned much from them. How to shoot multiple guns, martial arts, Pilipino knife fighting, how to survive the wilderness, and plenty of other skills. If a big family has taught me so many things that most people would never know, how then would a bigger church family not be even more helpful than this?
I see my church family much more than I do my parental family. I&#039;ve drawn closer than ever to God thanks to my pastor (The head pastor, mind you, who stays an hour after church to talk to anyone who wants to talk), and the other church members. I&#039;ve also learned wood and leather working, thanks to some elderly men who have taken me under their wing, and how to play the banjo thanks to a musician at my church.
Maybe it is just my church. I cannot speak for the majority of megachurches out there. However, I feel as if articles such as this stir up animosity towards megachurches, which is only further shown by the majority of these comments I have read. Some of them are downright hateful! And these are supposed Christians writing to you!
I would like once again to express that I have no disrespect for you. I just disagree with you on this one subject. Now, I need to go write my paper, but I hope you see this, and God bless you and be with you.
James Conner]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Philip,<br />
I have never read anything by you. To be honest, I found this article because my college is having me write a paper on it. While I do find some of your arguments to be correct, such as the smaller groups making it easier to rub elbows with people, I must disagree with most of your argument.<br />
I do not want to be disrespectful. I realize that you are a well studied man, and that I am just a student struggling through college. I would like to say that I have only been going to a megachurch now for four years, and before I went I was very much against megachurches. I used many of the same arguments as you when my parents started taking us there. The first thing I will say is that a church should not be the driving force to &#8220;force&#8221; you to talk to other people outside of your clique. That to me just doesn&#8217;t sound very Christ-like. Imagine if Jesus had only spent time with people like him. He never would have left Heaven. He would have never stepped out to spend time with people who didn&#8217;t have the same interests with him, and he definitely would not have died for them.<br />
To speak on families, I feel like your argument fights itself. I come from a family of nine kids, seven boys and two girls. My mother comes from a family of ten. My brother already has a family of five kids. If anyone knows diversity, It would be me. One uncle went to prison. Another uncle and aunt hunt big game around the world (We had wild boar from Africa as our ham last Thanksgiving). I have family in Texas, Tennessee, Michigan, Kentucky, and Florida. We all like different things, and I have learned much from them. How to shoot multiple guns, martial arts, Pilipino knife fighting, how to survive the wilderness, and plenty of other skills. If a big family has taught me so many things that most people would never know, how then would a bigger church family not be even more helpful than this?<br />
I see my church family much more than I do my parental family. I&#8217;ve drawn closer than ever to God thanks to my pastor (The head pastor, mind you, who stays an hour after church to talk to anyone who wants to talk), and the other church members. I&#8217;ve also learned wood and leather working, thanks to some elderly men who have taken me under their wing, and how to play the banjo thanks to a musician at my church.<br />
Maybe it is just my church. I cannot speak for the majority of megachurches out there. However, I feel as if articles such as this stir up animosity towards megachurches, which is only further shown by the majority of these comments I have read. Some of them are downright hateful! And these are supposed Christians writing to you!<br />
I would like once again to express that I have no disrespect for you. I just disagree with you on this one subject. Now, I need to go write my paper, but I hope you see this, and God bless you and be with you.<br />
James Conner</p>
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		By: Des Morgan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Des Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2016 08:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://philipyancey.com/small-is-large/comment-page-7/#comment-6439&quot;&gt;Jim&lt;/a&gt;.

I just wonder if we are wanting people &#039;churched&#039;. One of the greatest challenges we face is to &#039;unchurch&#039; people i.e. for them to understand that what happens in a &#039;church service&#039; has for the most part very little to do with what Jesus came to bring about. He came to gather people in two&#039;s and three&#039;s where he is in the midst of them.  We do not have a shortage of &#039;church&#039; people but there seems to be a shortage of people who are are prepared to give their all to help their neighbour and identify with those who are are different.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://philipyancey.com/small-is-large/comment-page-7/#comment-6439">Jim</a>.</p>
<p>I just wonder if we are wanting people &#8216;churched&#8217;. One of the greatest challenges we face is to &#8216;unchurch&#8217; people i.e. for them to understand that what happens in a &#8216;church service&#8217; has for the most part very little to do with what Jesus came to bring about. He came to gather people in two&#8217;s and three&#8217;s where he is in the midst of them.  We do not have a shortage of &#8216;church&#8217; people but there seems to be a shortage of people who are are prepared to give their all to help their neighbour and identify with those who are are different.</p>
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		By: Des Morgan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Des Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2016 07:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://philipyancey.com/small-is-large/comment-page-7/#comment-7382&quot;&gt;Gabriel&lt;/a&gt;.

Community is already there.  We don&#039;t have to search for it unless we are searching for what Philip is indicating we should be careful not to join. Your neighbour is your community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://philipyancey.com/small-is-large/comment-page-7/#comment-7382">Gabriel</a>.</p>
<p>Community is already there.  We don&#8217;t have to search for it unless we are searching for what Philip is indicating we should be careful not to join. Your neighbour is your community.</p>
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		By: Gabriel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article! I just read it here in the Dom. Republic this morning and it really got me thinking about my personal search for the right Christian community. Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! I just read it here in the Dom. Republic this morning and it really got me thinking about my personal search for the right Christian community. Thanks!</p>
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		By: Tracy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much for sharing your insight on community! What an eye-opener to me! I must thank God for my family! Thanks Philip! I will re-read this post over &#038; over again to remind myself what it is to be in a community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for sharing your insight on community! What an eye-opener to me! I must thank God for my family! Thanks Philip! I will re-read this post over &amp; over again to remind myself what it is to be in a community.</p>
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		By: Jim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2015 01:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Megachurches have their place--and they are attracting many who would otherwise go unchurched.  Some prefer the smaller, or medium-sized, church. Some prefer stained-glass windows. Some prefer hymn-singing and liturgy. Some prefer to park where they please and not be herded.  It still ultimately comes down to the two great commandments and the great commission to love God, serve neighbor, and make disciples.

BTW - I very much like your words/insights on community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megachurches have their place&#8211;and they are attracting many who would otherwise go unchurched.  Some prefer the smaller, or medium-sized, church. Some prefer stained-glass windows. Some prefer hymn-singing and liturgy. Some prefer to park where they please and not be herded.  It still ultimately comes down to the two great commandments and the great commission to love God, serve neighbor, and make disciples.</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; I very much like your words/insights on community.</p>
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