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		By: Philip Yancey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Yancey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 13:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://philipyancey.com/kids-in-church/comment-page-5/#comment-26436&quot;&gt;Jane S Hughes&lt;/a&gt;.

That you took the time to spell out the resonance in our two stories means a lot to me.  Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://philipyancey.com/kids-in-church/comment-page-5/#comment-26436">Jane S Hughes</a>.</p>
<p>That you took the time to spell out the resonance in our two stories means a lot to me.  Thank you.</p>
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		By: Jane S Hughes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane S Hughes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 19:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Phillip,
I wish I had 1/10th of your talent to write, so that I could articulately describe how moving and lifechanging this book was for me on so many levels. Although I grew up Catholic, (school 1-12) and we experienced rules/regulations galore, it was not nearly as legalistic as the IFD churches you attended. 
However my husband, grew up Southern Baptist, and this book truly opened my eyes to understand better why he walked away from the church. 
I&#039;m hoping he will read your book and it will be cathartic and healing for him. 
A searing page turner, I couldn&#039;t put this down, didn&#039;t want it to end, and will read it again for certain. I read it in 2 days and I could see it as a movie.  It brought out every emotion possible.... sadness, anger, laughter, joy, frustration, fear, regret, admiration, etc. 

Another aspect of how this book took the veil off, was with my 2 Christian raised sons, who became prodigals around high school/college, because they saw the hypocrisy in the church. I had to learn the hard way, that continuing to share God and make them attend church (out of fear they wouldn&#039;t be saved) only pushed them further away, like your brother. (However, I was not legalistic or pushy) 
As a caring parent, I believe we do this out of love and wanting them to have a relationship with Jesus. Your book made me see this so clearly and all I need to do is love them, always offer grace and leave the rest to God.
(I actually had God put the words Grace across my forehead, as if imprinted there and heard that word over and over again...in an unrelated situation. and ever since then it keeps coming up! Your book expressed it so effortlessly.
The most important takeaway, was your message of grace and how you live it! 
Talk about &#039;amazing&#039; grace! You&#039;ve got it. Its so beautiful and God-like, especially with what you&#039;ve experienced. Ironically, our church is in a series currently on legalism vs Gods grace and your book ties in.
I now pray everyday that God would work through me to offer the same grace for people that you do to your Mother, Marshall and the rest of the world!
 Thank you, thank you for this rich gift!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip,<br />
I wish I had 1/10th of your talent to write, so that I could articulately describe how moving and lifechanging this book was for me on so many levels. Although I grew up Catholic, (school 1-12) and we experienced rules/regulations galore, it was not nearly as legalistic as the IFD churches you attended.<br />
However my husband, grew up Southern Baptist, and this book truly opened my eyes to understand better why he walked away from the church.<br />
I&#8217;m hoping he will read your book and it will be cathartic and healing for him.<br />
A searing page turner, I couldn&#8217;t put this down, didn&#8217;t want it to end, and will read it again for certain. I read it in 2 days and I could see it as a movie.  It brought out every emotion possible&#8230;. sadness, anger, laughter, joy, frustration, fear, regret, admiration, etc. </p>
<p>Another aspect of how this book took the veil off, was with my 2 Christian raised sons, who became prodigals around high school/college, because they saw the hypocrisy in the church. I had to learn the hard way, that continuing to share God and make them attend church (out of fear they wouldn&#8217;t be saved) only pushed them further away, like your brother. (However, I was not legalistic or pushy)<br />
As a caring parent, I believe we do this out of love and wanting them to have a relationship with Jesus. Your book made me see this so clearly and all I need to do is love them, always offer grace and leave the rest to God.<br />
(I actually had God put the words Grace across my forehead, as if imprinted there and heard that word over and over again&#8230;in an unrelated situation. and ever since then it keeps coming up! Your book expressed it so effortlessly.<br />
The most important takeaway, was your message of grace and how you live it!<br />
Talk about &#8216;amazing&#8217; grace! You&#8217;ve got it. Its so beautiful and God-like, especially with what you&#8217;ve experienced. Ironically, our church is in a series currently on legalism vs Gods grace and your book ties in.<br />
I now pray everyday that God would work through me to offer the same grace for people that you do to your Mother, Marshall and the rest of the world!<br />
 Thank you, thank you for this rich gift!</p>
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		By: Kam Congleton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kam Congleton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2021 12:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip, just so grateful for your gracious life-giving response to all you experienced growing up and even as an adult. We all experience some significant disappointments in life with family or friends or teachers- and as you write about- or God. Yet- you have allowed your pain and questions to turn us toward hope and help and the ultimate Good that is in the person of Jesus- not us broken followers. 
 Thank you for writing your latest books - I have read the Memoir and Vanishing Grace...they are the perfect bookends.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip, just so grateful for your gracious life-giving response to all you experienced growing up and even as an adult. We all experience some significant disappointments in life with family or friends or teachers- and as you write about- or God. Yet- you have allowed your pain and questions to turn us toward hope and help and the ultimate Good that is in the person of Jesus- not us broken followers.<br />
 Thank you for writing your latest books &#8211; I have read the Memoir and Vanishing Grace&#8230;they are the perfect bookends.</p>
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		By: Brent Mangus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brent Mangus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 23:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Philip,
I am on chapter 16 of your memoir, and I am both wrecked and grateful for you writing this down and sharing it with the world. I grew up IFB, but in the 80s and 90s. My Grandfather was my pastor, and he was very good friends with many of the men you mentioned that would come and speak at your church. Every year Peter Ruckman would come preach at my church and then would come to my grandfather&#039;s house and have dinner with my family. He was like a god in our circles. So many of the things that you shared and that you struggled with internally, I too struggled with. I have since forgiven the IFB culture that I grew up in. In one way I am most thankful for it is that I have never doubted the authenticity and power of the Word of God (though not just the KJV). Eight years ago after a 14 year addiction the one thing I turned to was the Bible and I started reading it and began a true relationship with Jesus. 
Thank you again for sharing your story so far. Because it rings so close to home for me, I can only listen to a little bit at time or else I might get overwhelmed with emotions. 
God bless,
Brent]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Philip,<br />
I am on chapter 16 of your memoir, and I am both wrecked and grateful for you writing this down and sharing it with the world. I grew up IFB, but in the 80s and 90s. My Grandfather was my pastor, and he was very good friends with many of the men you mentioned that would come and speak at your church. Every year Peter Ruckman would come preach at my church and then would come to my grandfather&#8217;s house and have dinner with my family. He was like a god in our circles. So many of the things that you shared and that you struggled with internally, I too struggled with. I have since forgiven the IFB culture that I grew up in. In one way I am most thankful for it is that I have never doubted the authenticity and power of the Word of God (though not just the KJV). Eight years ago after a 14 year addiction the one thing I turned to was the Bible and I started reading it and began a true relationship with Jesus.<br />
Thank you again for sharing your story so far. Because it rings so close to home for me, I can only listen to a little bit at time or else I might get overwhelmed with emotions.<br />
God bless,<br />
Brent</p>
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		By: Philip Yancey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Yancey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://philipyancey.com/kids-in-church/comment-page-4/#comment-25799&quot;&gt;Tony Beard&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ll make sure my brother receives this note from you.  Thank you for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://philipyancey.com/kids-in-church/comment-page-4/#comment-25799">Tony Beard</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll make sure my brother receives this note from you.  Thank you for it.</p>
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		By: Tony Beard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Philip,

I&#039;ve just finished listening to your narration of &quot;Where the Light Fell&quot; and I can&#039;t begin to tell you just how helpful it has been for me. I married into a family with a history and conditions astoundingly similar to the home you were brought up in. Listening to your unfailing devotion to your mother and your brother was so enlightening to me. I&#039;ve heard similar stories from my wife about her childhood, and have watched her offer that same love and grace to her older brother, who incredibly has been on the same track that your older brother has taken. Her father, who was in the ministry, has since passed away due to suicide, which brings about a tragic, complicated journey that we&#039;ve been on for the majority of our marriage. Your words have helped me understand why I must give space for her to continue her ministry to her brother. 

At about halfway through your book, I looked your brother up on LinkedIn, and wrote him directly. I doubt he sees those things, but I wanted him to know that he is loved by me, and that his story matters to me. I&#039;m sure he&#039;s getting a lot of that now with your memoir going public, which is great! But if not, would you tell him for me? I love, admire, and appreciate the Philip and Marshall Yancey&#039;s of the world.

I look forward to continuing my journey through your writings, now with the background of your story to give me additional context. I love you, brother. 

Lives of great men all remind us
   We can make our lives sublime,
And, departing, leave behind us
   Footprints on the sands of time;

Footprints, that perhaps another,
   Sailing o’er life’s solemn main,
A forlorn and shipwrecked brother,
   Seeing, shall take heart again.

Let us, then, be up and doing,
   With a heart for any fate;
Still achieving, still pursuing,
   Learn to labor and to wait.

Thank you for walking the path, I see your prints and I&#039;ll keep going in the same direction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just finished listening to your narration of &#8220;Where the Light Fell&#8221; and I can&#8217;t begin to tell you just how helpful it has been for me. I married into a family with a history and conditions astoundingly similar to the home you were brought up in. Listening to your unfailing devotion to your mother and your brother was so enlightening to me. I&#8217;ve heard similar stories from my wife about her childhood, and have watched her offer that same love and grace to her older brother, who incredibly has been on the same track that your older brother has taken. Her father, who was in the ministry, has since passed away due to suicide, which brings about a tragic, complicated journey that we&#8217;ve been on for the majority of our marriage. Your words have helped me understand why I must give space for her to continue her ministry to her brother. </p>
<p>At about halfway through your book, I looked your brother up on LinkedIn, and wrote him directly. I doubt he sees those things, but I wanted him to know that he is loved by me, and that his story matters to me. I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s getting a lot of that now with your memoir going public, which is great! But if not, would you tell him for me? I love, admire, and appreciate the Philip and Marshall Yancey&#8217;s of the world.</p>
<p>I look forward to continuing my journey through your writings, now with the background of your story to give me additional context. I love you, brother. </p>
<p>Lives of great men all remind us<br />
   We can make our lives sublime,<br />
And, departing, leave behind us<br />
   Footprints on the sands of time;</p>
<p>Footprints, that perhaps another,<br />
   Sailing o’er life’s solemn main,<br />
A forlorn and shipwrecked brother,<br />
   Seeing, shall take heart again.</p>
<p>Let us, then, be up and doing,<br />
   With a heart for any fate;<br />
Still achieving, still pursuing,<br />
   Learn to labor and to wait.</p>
<p>Thank you for walking the path, I see your prints and I&#8217;ll keep going in the same direction.</p>
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		By: Philip Yancey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Yancey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2021 04:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://philipyancey.com/kids-in-church/comment-page-4/#comment-25794&quot;&gt;Rachel Rim&lt;/a&gt;.

What a beautiful &quot;grace note&quot; you have sent me, Rachel.  I&#039;ve waited years--no, decades--to tell my story, and the affirmation I&#039;m getting from you and others eases my anxiety immeasurably.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://philipyancey.com/kids-in-church/comment-page-4/#comment-25794">Rachel Rim</a>.</p>
<p>What a beautiful &#8220;grace note&#8221; you have sent me, Rachel.  I&#8217;ve waited years&#8211;no, decades&#8211;to tell my story, and the affirmation I&#8217;m getting from you and others eases my anxiety immeasurably.</p>
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		By: Rachel Rim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2021 01:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Philip, 

I just finished &quot;Where the Light Fell,&quot; and was truly astounded to learn your full story after reading so many of your books. I came away feeling both honored and humbled by your invitation into the deep wounds of your life. I will have to re-read your books now with this new lens of what you suffered to attain your wisdom. Thank you for writing this memoir and allowing us to glean a harvest of grace from your deep grief. I am reminded of a line from &quot;A River Runs Through it&quot;: &quot;All good things come by grace, and grace comes by art, and art does not come easy.&quot; Thank you for wrestling with what does not come easy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Philip, </p>
<p>I just finished &#8220;Where the Light Fell,&#8221; and was truly astounded to learn your full story after reading so many of your books. I came away feeling both honored and humbled by your invitation into the deep wounds of your life. I will have to re-read your books now with this new lens of what you suffered to attain your wisdom. Thank you for writing this memoir and allowing us to glean a harvest of grace from your deep grief. I am reminded of a line from &#8220;A River Runs Through it&#8221;: &#8220;All good things come by grace, and grace comes by art, and art does not come easy.&#8221; Thank you for wrestling with what does not come easy.</p>
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		By: Dani Stelle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dani Stelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2021 16:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am very much looking forward to your book and will be ordering it from Germany - thank you for writing it!
The evangelical church I grew up in has American roots, so my experiences were very similar. Now I belong to the protestant church and get to experience baptism as an act of love, of God saying yes to us. Very healing every time :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very much looking forward to your book and will be ordering it from Germany &#8211; thank you for writing it!<br />
The evangelical church I grew up in has American roots, so my experiences were very similar. Now I belong to the protestant church and get to experience baptism as an act of love, of God saying yes to us. Very healing every time 🙂</p>
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		By: Berwyn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Berwyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 15:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am very excited to read your memoir, Philip. Your books have become very important to my faith journey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very excited to read your memoir, Philip. Your books have become very important to my faith journey.</p>
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